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Parliament considers new peace propositions

In London on August 5 at 12:14 pm

5 Aug 1643 (Sat) || Both Houses as was appointed, had a Conference about cetain Propositions drawn up by the Lords to be sent to His Majestie for a Peace, the substance whereof are much in effect the same as was devated upon the last Treaty at Oxford, the chief heads of them being as followeth, Viz.

1. That both Armies may be presently disbanded, and His Majesty return to the Parliament.

2. That Religion may be setled by a Synod of Divines in such manner as His Majesty and both Houses shall appoint.

3. That the Militia both by Sea and Land may be setled by a Bill, and the Militia, Forts, and Ports of the Kingdom put into such hands as His Majesty shall appoint, with approbation of both Houses, And His Majesties Revenues to be absolutely and wholyy restored to Him, onely deducting such part as hath been of necessary expended for the maintenance of His Children, and otherwise.

4. That all the Members of both Houses that have been expelled only for their absenting themselves, or meer complince with His Majesty, & no other matter of Fact against them, may be restored to their places.

5. That all Delinquents from before the 10 day of January 1641, shall be delivered up to the Justiceof Parliament, and a generall Pardon for all others on both sides.

And lastly, That there may be an Act of Oblivion for all by-gone deeds and Hostility.

Which Propositions the Lords referred to the consideration of the Commons, and after the conference the Commons had a very large and serious debate about it: First, Whether these Propositions from the Lords, as the case now stands, should be at all insisted upon by the Commons; and there were many reasons alleadged to the contrary, whereof these, as they report, are some of the chief, viz. The consideration of the little effect the former Treaty for Peace took at Oxford, but rather the great prejudice we received by it. 2. That the Houses being now upon Treaty with the Scots, to send some Forces into this Kingdom to assist us, and have a Committee now in Scotland, and the Forces there in a great readinesse to send: Whether it might not give the Scots such occasion of distaste, when they shall hear we are upon concluding a Peace: Also whether it may not much dishearten the Citizens of London in their Listings and Subscriptions for the Forces, and divers other considerable reasons alleadged: By after a deliberate debate, it was put to the Vote, and then resolved, That the House should insist upon the said Propositions: Whereupon the debate was continued, that they might presently enter into consultation of the said Propositions, and declare the sense of the House upon them at that sitting; but by others it was moved that it might be deferred till Tuesday or Wednesday next; which motion for divers reasons was disapproved of, and after much consultation, agreed that they should presently insist upon then: And first of all they begun with that Proposition touching His Majesties Revenue; to which the whole House in generall declared their free consents to have it setled upon his Majesty as was propounded: And then falling into debate touching the surrender of the Navy Forts and Castles, the consultation grew so great about it, and the day so far spent, that  they adjourned till Munday morning to consult further thereof. || A Perfect Diurnall of Some Passages in Parliament (P)

Earl of Essex urges Parliament to seek peace with the King

In London on July 12 at 9:32 pm

12 Jul 1643 (Wed) || It was advertised this day, that Letters had beene sent by the Earle of Essex to the remaining party in both Houses to let them understand the weake condition of their Forces under his command, & the great losse their Forces had susteined in other places; and to advise them, whilest they had yet some strength remaining, to addresse an humble Petition to His Majestie for the obtaining of a safe and convenient peace. Which Letters being favourably entertained amongst many of the Lords, found not so kind an acceptation amongst some in the Lower House: who as they had beene alwayes enemies to the peace of the Kingdome, so were they more averse now from it then they had beene formerly, in regard they had received credible information (if they did not make the same themselves) that His Majesties Forces in the West had been worsted by Sir William Waller: yet to avoid the odium which might fall upon them, had they wilfully declined the businesse, they thought it best to make a reference thereof to their friends (or rather Masters) the Citizens, whom they knew how to worke to their owne conclusions: and did accordingly so contrive the matter, that Isaack [Penington] and his faction did so abhominate and detest the meere name of peace, that rather then such a motion should be hearkned to, they would engage themselves to raise present money to maintaine the warre, and raise such Forces in the Citie as should sufficiently serve to pursue the project of bringing the whole Kingdome to confusion. Which being signified to their good Subjects in the Lower House, there was no further speech of desiring peace, though very little hopes to uphold the warre. || John Berkenhead/Peter Heylyn – Mercurius Aulicus (R)

Prisoner exchange row continues

In Bristol on June 2 at 8:35 pm

2 Jun 1643 (Fri) || There hath beene some Propositions for the exchange of Prisoners betweene the King and Parliament;¹ and his Excellencie, the Parliaments Lord Generall, would willingly exchange a Nobleman of the Kings party, for two of his Captaines now in miserable durance at Oxford, and the Earle of Forth, the Kings Lieutenant Generall, would have all the Prisoners in the Parliaments custody, exchanged for the Prisoners in Oxford, (which is an unequall demand, because there is now in the Parliaments custody at least ten for one) but the Earle of Forth will not quit the said two Captaines, nor any Members of the Parliament now his prisoners upon any termes, neither will the Parliament make so unequall exchange as is demanded of them, insomuch that this treaty is become of none effect; wherein chiefely is to be observed; that the Cavaliers greatest spight is against the Parliament, because they will not release any of their Members, but against the Law of Armes, and all reason still detaine. || William Ingler – Certaine Informations (P)

This day came out in Print His Majesties Letter to the Maior and Aldermen of Bristoll, bearing date, May 29. In which His Majesty taking notice, that diverse of his Majesties good Subjects, viz. Roland Yeomans,² George Bouchier, William Yeomans, Edw. Dacers, & others by the power and authoritie of certain factious & rebellious persons of that City were condemned to die, for the expression of their loyaltie and dutie to his Sacred Majestie, was pleased to signifie to the said Maior, Aldermen, and Common Counsell, that if they suffered that horrible murder to be committed on the persons aforesaid, his Majestie would look upon it as the most barbarous Act that had been committed against him; and upon them as the most desperate betrayers of his Majestie, and their fellow Subjects: commanding that no violences be done unto them, but that if  any be attempted, the said Maior and Aldermen should raise the power and strength of that Citie for their rescue, whom his Majesty requires on their Allegeance to be aiding and assisting in it, and as they hope for grace and favour at his Majesties hands, and that they kill and slay all such as shall attempt or endeavour to take away the lives of His Majesties said Subjects, for which that Letter was to be their warrant. || John Berkenhead/Peter Heylyn – Mercurius Aulicus (R)

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¹ See report of May 24
² Other sources give his name as Robert

Mutual threats to execute prisoners

In Bristol, London on May 24 at 10:57 am

24 May 1643 (Wed) || From Bristoll they write, that the Earle of Forth, who is Lieutenant Generall of the Kings Army, and commonly called Generall Ruthen, hath sent a Message to Collonell Fines their Governour, therein menacing, that if he execute any of the Conspirators that are condemned to be hang’d there for plotting the Massacre of the well affected People in that city, that he will execute all those Prisoners of the Parliaments party that are now in Oxford; whereupon Collonell Fines returned an Answer, that he is onely the Parliaments Servant, and bound to obey their commands, if they require the said Conspirators should be executed; and that if the said Generall doe execute his Prisoners, that the Parliament hath under their present command many considerable persons to make retaliation, witnesse those in the Tower of London, at Lambeth and Winchester Houses, in Warwicke Castle, in Manchester, Glocester, Bristoll, and those that were lately taken at Stafford and Wulverhampton, besides others at Cambridge, and in divers other places, all which being summed up, will at the least make ten for one, for those infinitely wronged and abused poore men at Oxford, who are ready to starve there, while the Cavalier party in the before mentioned places enjoy to the full, excepting their Liberties, what their sensuall hearts can wish; so full of clemencie is the Parliament, to their perpetuall honour and commendation. || William Ingler – Certaine Informations (P)

King denies knowledge of Reading surrender clause

In Berkshire on May 12 at 3:22 pm

12 May 1643 (Fri) || This day came out His Majesties Proclamation and Declaration concerning a clause of the late Articles at Reading, in which His Majestie taking notice of a Proclamation bearing date the 18th of April, containing His Majesties gracious pardon to the Rebells then (and now) in Armes against him; as also, “that by certaine Articles betweene the Earle of Essex and the Commander of His Masjeties Forces in Reading such persons who had left that Rebellious Army, and betaken themselves to His Majesties service and protection, were delivered backe into the hands of those whom out of conscience and duety to His Majesty they had forsaken”; declareth unto all the world, that he was neither privy to, not in the least degree consented to that exception, but holds the same so prejudiciall to his service and derogatory from his honour, that he should rather choose to run any danger the violence and treason of his enemies could bring upon him, then to withdraw or deny His Majesties protection to any of those, who should returne unto their duty, and betake themselves unto His service: His Majesty declaring further, that as he had referred to a Councell of warre the full examination of all the particular proceedings in the delivery of that Towne, that Justice might be done accordingly; so he would alwaies proceed with like severity against all such as by the like dishonourable conditions should expose such of His good Subjects unto ruine, who had returned to their obedience to His Majesty. Which signified, His Majesty againe renewes His gracious promises and offers contained in that His Majesties Proclamation of the 18th of April, upon the limitations and conditions in the same expressed; His Majesty further in the word of a King,  assuring all such His good Subjects who should so put themselves into His Majesties hands, that they shall not onely receive His Majesties grace and protection, but that their former errours shall never be remembred in the least degree to their disadvantage. || John Berkenhead/Peter Heylyn – Mercurius Aulicus (R)

Reading surrendered to the Earl of Essex

In Berkshire on April 26 at 10:25 pm

26 Apr 1643 (Wed) || This day began with the newes that His Majesties Forces had relieved Reading, and put into the same 16 barrels of powder, though not without losse of some men on His Majesties side: and that the siege might either have been raised, or else some notable blow been given to the besiegers, but that the Garrison not having any good intelligence of His Majesties purposes, and finding that their store of powder would not long hold out, were at the same time in a Parley with the Enemy, and in that respect could not second the designe with the Garrison soldiers from the Towne as it was expected. And the same day newes came that this releife had put the Towne into so good condition, that though it could not inable them for a long defence, without more supplies: yet it had gained farre better termes for the surrendrie of the place, then had else been granted: both parties gaving concluded and signed these following Articles, viz.

I. That the Governour, Commanders, and souldiers both horse and foot may march out with Flying Colours, Armes, & 4 peeces of Ordinance, Ammunition, bag and baggage, light Match, bullet in Mouth, drum beating, and Trumpet sounding.
2. That they may have free passage to His Majesties City of Oxford without interruption of any of the Forces under the Command of his Excellencie the Earle of Essex, provided the said Governour, Commanders and souldiers use no hostility untill they come to Oxford.
3. That what persons soever are accidentallie come to this Towne and shut up by the Seige may have like Libertie to passe without interruption, such persons only excepted as have run away from the Army under the Command of the Earle of Essex.
4. That they may have 50 Carriages for Baggage, Sicke, and hurt men.
5. That the Inhabitants of the Towne of Reading may not be prejudiced in their estates or persons, either by Plundering or imprisonment: And that those who will leave the Towne may have free leave and passage safely to go to what place they will with their goods within the space of six weekes after the surrender of the said Towne.
6. That the Garrison of Reading shall quit the said Towne by twelve of the Clocke to morrow morning, and that the Earle of Essex provide a guard for the security of the Garrison souldiers when they begin to march.

It is conceived the gaining of this empty towne, and the removing of the Garrison but a fortnight sooner then was intended by His Majesty (for no more was done) hath cost his Excellencie very many of his men, which have beene either killed by the defendants, or perished by sicknesse and diseases, or made unserviceable by their wounds, or else were runne away to avoid those dangers. || John Berkenhead/Peter Heylyn – Mercurius Aulicus (R)

Parliament gives up on treaty with the King

In London, Oxford on April 14 at 3:52 pm

14 Apr 1643 (Fri) || This day came out in Print His Majesties last gracious message to both Houses, of the 12 of April, concerning the disbanding of both Armies, and his Majesties returne to both Houses of Parliament. In which his Majestie declareth, that as soone as he was satisfied in his first Proposition concerning his own Revenue, Magazine, Ships and Forts, in which he desired nothing but that the just, legall and known Rights of His Majestie, and of the persons trusted by him were restored unto them; as soone as the Members of both Houses should be restored unto the same capacitie of sitting and voting in Parliament, as they had upon the first of Jan. 1641. (exclusively of such whose voted have been taken away by Bill, or by new elections on new writs;) and that as soon as His Majestie and both Houses may be secured from such tumultuous assemblies, as to the high dishonour of Parliament had awed the Members of the same; which he conceived could not otherwise be done then by adjourning the Parliament to some place 20 miles from London, such as the Houses should agree on; His Majestie most chearfully and readily would consent, that both of the Armies be immediately disbanded, and returne speedily to his two Houses of Parliament, at the time and place, to which by their appointment it should be adjourned: His Majesty not doubting but that upon a free debate in a full and peaceable convention of Parliament, such provisions would be made against seditious preaching and printing against His Majestie and the Lawes, that they might both recover their due estimation; and such care taken concerning His Majesties legall and known rights, and the libertie and propertie of the Subject; that whatsoever hath beene done or published to the prejudice of either, would in such manner be recalled, disclaimed and provided against, as that the like might never happen in the time to come; and promising for his part, to concent to whatsoever shall be proposed to Him by Bill for the reall good of his Subjects, (and in particular for the suppression of Popery) as may make known to all the world how little cause there was of those feared and jealousies, which have so long distracted this wretched Kingdome. Which offer if it were not consented to, His Majestie was confident, that it would evidently appeare to all the world not onely who was most desirous of peace, but by whose fault it is that the progresse of our peace was first interrupted, and these Armies raised. A very gracious and Royall message, if considered rightly.

One would have thought that such a message, so full of eminent grace and goodnesse, would have produced some good effect in the two Houses of Parliament. But contrary to the expectation of all good men, those who there govern’d all, had resolved upon it (for feare lest peace might have ensued) to dissolve the Treaty, and call backe their Committee, which was done accordingly. And though it had beene moved by some moderate men, that seeing God Almighty had granted 40 days to Ninive, out of his mercifull intent to save that Citie; they after his example would allow 40 dayes for the present Treaty, out of their tender care to preserve this Kingdome; yet it would not edifie: For the Lord Say, Master Pym, and others of the leading Members were exceeding sensible, and sticked not to affirme to their private friends, that they had no hopes of safety in a peace, or any other course then the way of power. Insomuch, that when the Lords desired a conference to consider further of the businesse, it was determined otherwise in the House of Commons, and their Committee was commanded to returne without longer stay. Which being signified, those that had beene appointed for the lower House, began their journey hence this very day, leaving the Earle of Northumberland to follow after on the morrow.  || John Berkenhead/Peter Heylyn – Mercurius Aulicus (R)

Aulicus alleges that Parliament’s Propositions & King’s answer faked

In Oxford on February 8 at 3:11 pm

8 February 1642/3 (Wed) || It was very confidently reported by some, who came from [London] since the returne of the Committee, that some had caused the Propositions, with His Majesties Answer, to be printed by a different Copie from that which was sent hither, and returned to them: the Propositions being made more moderate then those sent hither by the Houses, and the King’s Answer more unpleasing then He gave them here. A very pestilent device whosoever it was, to abuse the subject. || John Berkenhead/Peter Heylyn – Mercurius Aulicus (R)

The King’s response to the propositions; and editor Collings’s assessment

In ECW editor's comment on February 7 at 11:15 pm

7 February 1642/3 (Tue) || The Committee of Lords and Commons that went on Tuesday last to the King at Oxford, with Propositions and Bills from the  Parliament, are returned hither againe, and instead of a punctuall and direct Answer, they brought Propositions; wherein the King requireth the immediate restoring of his Revenue, Magazine, Townes, Forts, and Ships, and that whatsoever hath beene done this Parliament, contrary to the knowne Lawes, to be renounced and recalled; and that all imprisoning and imposing upon men that will not obey the Orders of Parliament be disclaimed, and they discharged, that a Statute may be made for the preserving of the booke of Common-Prayer, that such as shall be excepted out of the generall Pardon, may be tryed by their Peeres, and that first of all there may be a cessation of Armes, and free trade for all his Subjects, All which tend to the disanulling of whatsoever the Parliament hath done, and to make their power ineffectuall, but especially, because the Cavaliers want Gunpowder and Match, they would have open trade for them. || William Ingler – Certaine Informations (P)

As the last week you had Intelligence of the Lords and Commons that went with the Propositions to his Majesty: So you shall have a briefe account what effect they have produced.

1. Is, that his Majesty told them that those that contrived the Propositions (meaning the Parliament, for though a Committee brought them in, they debated and Voted the same in the House) had little desire of peace, which is a slander put upon the Parliament by those that advised his Majesty to that saying.

2. His Majesty propounds to have a Treaty by parties chosen by him and his Parliament (which under favour, is too much below a Parliament to yeeld, unto, to treate with any but his Majesty in Parliament), one head of the Treaty to be, To deliver all the Castles, Forts, Townes and Ships into his Maiesties possession, then Colonell Aston, and the rest of the Papists will in all likelihood bee made Governours and Commanders of them, as hee is now at Redding: If that single Proposition were onely insisted upon, it were simplicity to think the Parliament will consent our lives, Religion and liberty be put in such Commanders hands: Another [head] is to have the Parliament to condiscend that all persons excepted out of the Act of oblivion shall be tryed Per Peeres, which is another high breach of priviledge; once grant the King that any Member of Parliament may be fetched out by head and shoulders as Traytors under a fained pretence of Treason (by some she or he seducer of his Majesty) as it was indeavoured 4. Jan. what man of honesty and integrity dare open his mouth against a Papist or Projector, but he shall be a Traytor presently, and so by degrees (if you admit for one) take away all the good Members of the House, and leave none but Malignants, and such as will comply with their Designes: Either uphold priviledge of Parliament, or bid adue to Religion and Liberty. Another Article is to release all men imprisoned; and to restore goods seised; or to that purpose (not regarding the law of Nature and necessity compelling them thereunto). But no mention is made that his Majesties Army hath so much as offended in the imprisoning of any man, stealing horses by thousands, cattle by five thousands, and unmercifull plundering of houses.

Another is to have a Cessation of Armes while the Treaty last, which if it proceed is like to hold until Easter, whereas the Parliament propounded (so desirous they were of Peace) to have all Armies disbanded, but that is rejected, And what Resolutions the Parliament will take hereupon, God knowes, who is the director of all hearts, and God give them hearts to conclude all things which may be for his glory, the prosperity of his Majesty, the advancement of the Gospell, and the quick and sudden peace of the Kingdome, if we be ripe for mercy. || Richard Collings – The Kingdomes Weekly Intelligencer (P)

King grants safe conduct to latest Parliament Committee

In London, Oxford on February 1 at 3:30 pm

1st February 1642/3 (Wed) || Sir Peter Killegrew is returned from Oxford, with a safe Conduct for the Parliaments Committee that are to carry the Propositions to the King, and he affirmeth, that he saw the Marquesse Hartford surrender his Commission to the King, because he now evidently perceived, that our Religion, Lawes, Liberties, and Parliaments were mainly stricken at, all which he had solemnly vowed to maintaine and defend by the late Protestation which hee tooke, which neither for life nor death he would not violate, or perfidiously infringe. || William Ingler –  Certaine Informations (P)

Sir Peter Kellegrew that was sent to his Majestie to desire a safe conduct for the Gentlemen that were appointed by the Houses to carry the propositions to his Majesty, [is] returned and declared to the Houses, that his Majesty was willing to allow them a safe conduct as was desired, whereupon the said Gentlemen had their dispatches from the Houses and set forwards for Oxford that day, viz. the Earle of Northumberland, the Earle of Pembrooke, Earle of Salisbury, and Earle of Holland, of the Lords house. The Lord Wainman, Lord Dungarvon, Sir John Holland, Sir William Litton, Master Perpoint, Master Waller, Mr. Whitlock and Mr. Wynwood of the House of Commons. It being desired of his Majesty that he would be pleased to returne his answeree to the said Propositions within ten dayes after the delivery thereof, as hath beene formerly related. || Samuel Pecke – A Perfect Diurnall (P)

Foure Lords of the house of Peeres, and eight of the house of Commons, went with the Propositions and Bills to the King now at Oxford: And it is supposed, that the Commissioners from the State of Scotland with their Petition to the King, will meete them there also, and that all of them conjoyned, will doe their best endeavours, to mediate for a good and safe Peace for both Kingdomes, against the Papists and their adherents. || William Ingler –  Certaine Informations (P)

There came letters from the Gentlemen that set forward towards Oxford with the Propositions, by which it was informed, that they met upon the way going also to Oxford to the King the Scotch Commissioners, with a Petition to his Majestie from the Lords and Commons of that Kingdome concerning the present affaires of England, and Scotland, and that the said Committee of the Parliament, and the Commissions from Scotland, are all gone together to his Majestie. The effect of the Scots Petition is as followeth, viz.

1. That they altogether dislike the Earle of Newcastles reciding in the North parts of England with his popish Army, which put them into great feares, and jealousies, desiring that the Army may bee forthwith disbanded or that otherwise they shall be necessitated, to raise forces as well to assist their brethren in England as for their owne defence.
2. That his Majestie would be pleased to comply with his Parliament in matters of Religion.
3. And lastly, that his Majestie would be pleased to condescend to the calling of a Parliament in Scotland for the punishing of delinquents and other necessary occasions, for the welfare of that Kingdome.
|| Samuel Pecke – A Perfect Diurnall  (P)